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Moore's claim that good is simple and indefinable leads to incoherent "good"

 

G. E. Moore took a very specific position: “good” is simple and indefinable. He didn’t think it was complex, and he didn’t think ethics collapses into illusion.

Perhaps this was a mere process of elimination, like ticking boxes until only one remains. Moore believed he had a positive insight: that “good” is a non-natural property—something real, but not reducible to anything like pleasure, desire, biology, or divine command.

That makes it too easily to demand that a person who says they have no such insight and their insight says it is wrong should be believed. That shows there is something wrong with his notion. He is clearly redefining his subjective notion of good – defining it as something real and not subjective.

Moore complained that many philosophers commit what he called the naturalistic fallacy—they try to define “good” in terms of something else, like pleasure (hedonism), or what we desire or what God wills. He argues that these attempts confuse what things are good with what goodness itself is.

Imagine someone says: “Grass is whatever becomes straw.” That’s mistaken. Straw comes from grass, but it doesn’t define what grass is.

Likewise pleasure might be something that is often good, but that doesn’t mean goodness is pleasure. He is identifying a consequence, sign, or common feature—not the essence.

You can point to many yellow things (bananas, sunflowers), but you can’t define “yellow” in simpler terms—it’s something you just directly recognize. Moore thinks “good” is like “yellow”: simple, unanalyzable, but still meaningful.

Moore famously gave us the Open Question Argument. Take any proposed definition such as that good is pleasure. Moore asks, if pleasure is good. If “good” really meant “pleasure,” that question would be meaningless—like asking “Is pleasure pleasure?” The question still feels open and debatable for some pleasures seem bad such as cruelty, addiction. And some non-pleasures seem good such as sacrifice, truth. So the question isn’t closed—it’s still intelligible and arguable.

So good cannot mean pleasure. Also if you say that good is whatever God wills or good is what we desire we run into a wall. We are no better off for God willing something does not make it good and desiring something does not make it good.

Was Moore right? Philosophers are still divided. In his favour he correctly spotted a real confusion: mixing up “what things are good” vs. “what goodness is”. His Open Question Argument is powerful and still widely discussed.

Against him it may be asserted that the Open Question Argument doesn’t prove indefinability. It just reveals that people can be confused about meanings.

You may say that there is no way to tell if we are confused about meanings or if the issue is indefiniability. It can even be both.

Others (like naturalists) insist “good” can be reduced to natural properties such as well-being.

Moore’s view is that good is real, it is simple and that good is indefinable.
Attempts to define it confuse instances of goodness with goodness itself. The mistake he’s targeting is like trying to understand what something is by pointing only to its effects, examples, or consequences.

R. M. Hare argues that moral language is not about describing objective facts but about prescribing actions. When we say something is “good,” we are not identifying a property (as G. E. Moore thought), but expressing a commitment or recommendation that we are logically bound to apply consistently in similar situations. This means that moral judgments are not objective in the sense of being true or false like scientific statements; instead, they function as universalizable prescriptions. Hare therefore helps explain why people may think values are objective—they treat moral statements like factual claims—but in reality, they are using them to guide behaviour while being constrained by logic and consistency rather than by independently existing moral properties.

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